There are two groups that make up the congregation at Grace Pointe. There are the very young, and the seniors. As for reaching the 20-somethings to 40-somethings, we have not been very successful. Let me clarify. We have seen some 20-40 year olds saved, and some baptized, but few continue to be involved in the church. This happens for a number of reasons, including hectic work/family schedules, and the desire for downtime. However, those factors can be overcome to get young families into church.
As I look across the religious landscape in Brownwood, I see three churches that are excelling in bringing in young families and getting them involved. These churches have three common-denominators. (1) They are built on relationships. The young families who go there have friends there, and they feel at home in those churches. (2) These churches are not known for being dogmatic on doctrine. They tend to focus their teaching on the basic doctrines of Christ (repentance, faith, salvation, and trusting God through the storms of life). And (3) Like it or not, they have contemporary worship services.
The building of relationships takes time, and the relationship must be built out of a genuine love and concern for the other party, otherwise it is little more than a manipulative situation. We can not go building relationships for the sole purpose of building a church. If we do that, we will become guilty of using people and abusing them the same way other religious organizations have done for years. No, we must love people and be there for them, even if they feel at home at the church across the street.
As for the doctrine issue, I have found that those in the 20-40 age range have an appetite for doctrine, but don't necessarily accept or internalize it just because the preacher says so. If a doctrine is presented they disagree with, they typically will try to brush it aside in an effort to get along. If the preacher insists they accept it, they will probably be gone. The way I handle doctrinal issues is that I present them as they come up in the scriptures. I preach through books of the Bible, and when we reach passages of doctrine, I present it. The interesting thing about this approach is that you get a feel for which doctrines are God's priority, as those doctrines are presented most often in the scriptures. Do you have any idea which doctrine is presented the most in the scriptures (and by extension, is the most important to God?) Hint: It's not the Bride. When differences of belief on certain doctrines arise, if you can get back to the fundamentals of the faith and agree there, then you still have fellowship and no one gets their feelings hurt.
Then comes the contemporary worship issue. I have publicly opposed contemporary worship, not because of what it is, but rather the attitudes some people who have propagated it. Their attitudes of contempt toward the senior members of the church, and their proclamations that they couldn't worship in a traditional style were major turn-offs for me.
When I look out among the congregation of grey hair, and in some cases, no hair, I see a generation of people who not only contributed much of their lives and personal resources so that I could stand in a pulpit and preach, but I see a generation of people who built the country into what we know today. I also see a generation of people who have been left behind by our modern, technology driven, frenzied paced lifestyles.
But yet, they stay active in life, and in church. In some cases, church is the only thing that still seems normal, that still makes sense. Then comes the young, on-fire preacher who is going to totally turn the world upside down, and he tells them to sell the piano, get rid of the organ, burn the hymnals, and sing staring at a projection screen to the accompaniment of a praise band. It totally freaks them out, and with good reason.
Contemporary music makes sense to my generation, because it is what we've grown up with. When you grew up listening to Def Leppard, Belinda Carslile, or Third Eye Blind and Green Day, the praise band seems like rather tame, worshipful music. However, if you grew up to Bob Wills, Jimmie Davis, Johnny Cash, and even Buddy Holly and the Beatles, it can be downright disturbing.
To put it another way, what if your worship leader looked like Kesha or Lady Gaga? It'd freak you out. That's what contemporary worship looks like to these seniors. So, they oppose it. However, their opposition only fuels the fire of the proponents of contemporary worship, leading to a split in the church. Sometimes, the result of this split is two different churches. Other times, churches choose to have two, or three, separate worship services. In those scenarios, you have a segmented church membership that is not necessarily working as a body.
I love our seniors at Grace Pointe, and I look up to them. I definitely don't want to leave them in the dust of progress. At the same time, I realize that if we are to see younger families join and become active in our congregation, there are some methods that are going to have to change.
The question is, how do we adjust our methods for reaching people, and bring our established members along through the changes? How do we get them on board? How do we make them feel at home through the changes? If I can find the answer to those questions, then I'll be able to invite you to the dedication of our new state of the art worship facility. Until then, we meet at 1045 West Commerce in Brownwood, Texas, at 11 a.m. on Sunday mornings.
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Good observations brother.
"The building of relationships takes time, and the relationship must be built out of a genuine love and concern for the other party."
This seems to only be possibly by a body who expresses Christ daily. If Christ is our head, and we are Christ in this world, we will reach out as He reaches out. But the only way to do this is to allow Christ to meet with us every time we meet. We MUST meet with Jesus in our meetings instead of meeting ABOUT Jesus. We must then allow His leadership among us by seeking His will. If Christ meets among us, and we live as His body under His headship, He will genuinely reach out and be concerned about other folks through us.
"As for the doctrine issue, I have found that those in the 20-40 age range have an appetite for doctrine, but don't necessarily accept or internalize it just because the preacher says so."
Our church happens to be one of the only ones I've ever visited with mostly members between age 25-35. Pretty much all of our members are that age group (with the exception of all their little children and a few elderly). I must agree with you 100%. I am pretty sure they knew God wanted me here when they called me, but one of the things natural to me is that same desire to study for myself. To know for myself. If someone else says it, to reject it. This seems to naturally transfer over to my preaching in almost every sermon - go home and study this for yourself. Look this for yourself. Go home and read the rest of the passage today. On Wednesday nights, we have "open discussion" Bible study where everyone inputs. This age group seems to love it, but you know what? So do the elderly once they get used to it. They have a LOT to add too. We are learning as a church (myself included) instead of one man doing all the teaching. We are following those scriptural commands that all exhort one another, all edify one another, all "teaching one another". It really does add safety to our understanding. I am still there as a guide if they ask, but the study is very helpful at our church.
"I definitely don't want to leave them in the dust of progress. At the same time, I realize that if we are to see younger families join and become active in our congregation, there are some methods that are going to have to change."
Take this from someone who has been involved heavily in both. Most research shows music style isn't THAT important to folks who leave a church, or join one. Our church uses mostly only hymns with the occasional contemporary "special". We use a power point screen to project announcements, prayer requests, and hymn song numbers. Sometimes we use the power point to show sermon main points and which Scriptures to turn to. The elderly all love this (actually it was one of the older who asked me to start using it more often). They don't mind these changes. Yet at the same time, I can tell you the music service may be important, but won't really make a huge impact on whether someone comes and stays or not. It is possible the first two things you mentioned are included in churches with contemporary style worship, and so it appears this style is important. But it really isn't. The fact is, the contemporary style has an appearance of relevance to our generation, but it doesn't offer any more relevance than the hymns. The truth presented is what matters. That's why our church of 24-35 somethings still love to use the hymns (and I'm sure would love contemporary songs with good messages too).
"The question is, how do we adjust our methods for reaching people, and bring our established members along through the changes? How do we get them on board? How do we make them feel at home through the changes?"
I know you've heard many times, make changes slowly, don't change over night. But, to add to that, perhaps if you feel there is a change God wants to be made, discuss it with the church at a meeting one change at a time. Don't follow "Motion, Second, Vote" method. Instead, just have open discussion. Express what you feel, and ask everyone to share. Have prayer before to make sure you are all seeking Jesus' will in the discussion, and then let His body speak on behalf of Christ. If you do, you might be surprised that the members agree with your feeling. What I do NOT suggest is those one-on-one conversations "behind closed doors" trying to manipulate a business meeting. This will hurt folks feelings and they won't feel included in the decision making process.
I agree with Bro. Snyde, Making changes slowly is key. The Lord surely will not judge or evalulate based on projectors or not.
The quest seems to be having a vibrant, Christ-loving, doctrinally sound church that is at least not seen as a "relic" by this generation. I suppose my personal ideal church would be :
*Christ-centered
*loving
*vibrant
*burdened for the lost
*spontaneous (but not disorderly)
*experimental to a degree (with outreach)
*doctrinally sound
*mix of hymns & contemp. songs
*broad spectrum of ages
*broad spectrum of attire (so that almost any visitor could see people just like them)
*use of technology (projectors, etc) if it really enhances the message or activity. Not just use it to be using it.
*paved parking lot (hey it helps)
*several dependable people to address visitors for visitor's cards or just ask them if they need help to just ask (but not being pushy)
*someone or a couple to help lead youth (not as a separate entity but as a part of the church body)
Man! Where is this church?
Add to your list a people who REALLY are a close knit family who are the church more than just 3-6 hours a week.
I don't see contemporary worship as a magic cure-all, nor do I desire to see worship led by a praise band. An orchestra, piano, and guitar working in harmony would be awesome. Of course, worship at Grace Pointe would be a lot better if I wasn't leading it.
Bro. Neal did an excellent job of describing what I want Grace Pointe to be.
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"Except the Lord build the house, they labor in vain that build it: except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain." Psalm 127:1
"And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved." Acts 2:47
We live in an age when many market the church like a business. They research trends and see what influences the younger generation then they implement the data and really draw in the crowds.
A former pastor of mine said, "If you bring them in on hotdogs, you have to keep them on hotdogs." I have seen churches go into debt to build gyms and have all sorts of programs, but when those things are no longer popular, the young crowd vanishes.
I know your heart, Bro. Leland, and you want to reach the younger generation with the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. You are not simply trying to draw in the crowds.
There is nothing wrong with a contemporary music service as long as it glorifies Christ and not the musicians playing the music.
Personally, I would be careful trying to draw in the young crowd using anything other than the pure preaching of the word. If they won't come for the pure preaching of the word, they won't stay for it. If their desire is not to hear the word of God preached, but rather to be entertained, they will simply be like the seeds planted by the wayside, in the rocky soil, etc. They won't stick around.
"Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine." 2 Timothy 4:2
The Lord will build His church (Matthew 16:18). He will add to it such as should be saved and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Unless He builds His church, man's labor will be in vain.
While I highly disagree with Joseph's soteriology (see his blog), he makes a great point about the focus of our ministry. Those who are lost must ultimately hear God's Word and must come to grips with who Jesus Christ is and who they are. While you may draw a crowd on hot dogs, rock concerts, Heaven's Gates and Hell's Flames, etc., these will not fill their soul's need. (Luke 16:31)Also, we must not become lax on our stands for fundamental doctrines. Sorry, Bro. Leland, but the Bride does appear to me to be a clear teaching of the Bible.
While I am not opposed to tweaking our order of services a bit or methods of ministry just a bit, we must not fall into today's trends toward programs or as the simple church has, fundamentally tearing down our churches and reconstructing them from the ground up. Neither do we need to yield to the temptation to adapt our church's ministry to the one down the street.
Also, I would be very CAUTIOUS as to what changes I would try to lead a church to make, not only from the standpoint of acceptability by the congregation, but also from whether these changes are Scriptural.
As to some of the changes mentioned here, I could probably say I am not opposed to ALL contemporary music, but style is as important as lyrics. I would say I am diametrically opposed to a song that has heavy guitar riffs. Does that really in your hearts seem to be worshipful to you? Also, neither am I opposed to a projector screen being used. However, one of the arguments I have heard against them does consider our attention. One brother made the point that putting EVERYTHING on a screen discourages the congregation from bringing their Bibles and studying for themselves. Also, I am not opposed to a pastor preaching in a polo shirt and khakis, for example, it just seems to detract from the gravity of the calling if a pastor showed up in holey jeans and a Casting Crowns t-shirt or even wearing a dress shirt untucked over jeans. I am also not opposed to a class where questions are asked and there is open discussion, provided it does not get out of hand. I have seen that used during the Sunday night training hour by an ultra-conservative pastor of mine and I really enjoyed it.
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