Monday, August 2, 2010

Getting down to the Nitty Gritty in Revelation

We are studying the book of Revelation at Grace Pointe MBC in Brownwood, TX. For the past few months, we have been studying the seven churches of Asia, and the significance of the contents of God's throne room as is described in Revelation 4-5. This week, we begin chapter 6, which depicts the opening of the seals and the events that unfold during the Tribulation, the seven year period at the end of our current era also known as Daniel's 70th week.

At this point of the study, members at Grace Pointe will expect to hear teaching regarding the timing of the events of the seven-year tribulation. Growing up, I was always taught the following order of things:
  1. The Rapture occurs.
  2. The seven-year tribulation begins.
  3. The four horsemen of Revelation 6 appear.
  4. The two witnesses appear at the Temple or temple mount in Jerusalem.
  5. The "Wrath of the Lamb" worldwide earthquake.
  6. The Anti-Christ, who has appeared on the scene at some point during all this, assumes power.
  7. The Anti-Christ is assassinated, but then healed.
  8. The two witnesses are assassinated, then resurrect after three days in full view of the entire world.
  9. The final 3.5 years of the Tribulation, known as "The Great Tribulation," begin.
  10. The mark of the beast, total war, total judgment, total destruction, Christ returns and establishes His kingdom.
However, as a result of my personal study, and some teachings I received in seminary, I have concluded that the above list is inaccurate. First of all, in all passages of end time prophecy, the rapture is not mentioned. (The rapture is only described in 1 Thessalonians, and briefly in Matthew 24). Furthermore, I find it interesting that there is no mention of the Rapture in Revelation before the opening of the seals, which tells me that there is no Rapture that occurs before the Tribulation begins.

Furthermore, the two witnesses are not mentioned until Revelation 11. They will prophesy 1,260 days (or 3 1/2 Jewish calendar years.) The Antichrist (The beast) will be given power for 42 months (3 1/2 years).

This information, along with the understanding of the purpose of Daniel's 70th week (to finish the transgression, to make an end of sins, and to reconcile God to His people, the Jews... Daniel 9:24), we find that the contemporary Christian understanding of the Tribulation is incorrect. Most Christians understand that the seven-year tribulation is God's wrath executed upon an unbelieving world. According to scripture (Daniel 9:24), the purpose is to bring Israel to repentance.

The fact that the Tribulation will be brought about to bring Israel to repentance means that it is not ALL God's wrath being poured out on the earth, meaning that God's children, those who know Jesus as Savior, will in fact endure at least part of the Tribulation. Scriptural evidence of this includes the martyrs mentioned in Revelation 6:9-11 and Revelation 7:9-16.

As for the two witnesses, I am thinking that their prophetic ministry happens during the last 3 1/2 years of the tribulation, the Great Tribulation. Why? First of all, when they minister. Revelation 11:1 tells John to measure the Temple of God, meaning the Temple will exist during the duration of the ministry of the two witnesses. Secondly, they witness for 3 1/2 Jewish years... the exact length of time of the Great Tribulation (the second half of Daniel's 70th week). Thirdly, the entire world rejoices at their demise... meaning that the world believes that its trouble is over because the two witnesses are gone. Notice also that 1 Thessalonians 5:3 says the world will say "peace and safety," then sudden destruction comes upon them. That is exactly what will happen at the end of the Tribulation.

As for the timing of the Rapture, I think I have found a passage in Revelation 14:14-20:
Rev 14:14-20 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. 15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. 16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped. 17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle. 18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe. 19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. 20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.
In this passage, you have one on the cloud like unto the Son of Man with a sickle, who reaps at the cry of the first angel who comes out of the Temple (the Rapture of the Saints?), and another angel who came out of the Temple with a sharp sickle who gathers the grapes of the earth (the fruit of the world, the unsaved) at the cry of the angel from the altar.

This incident happens immediately before the last seven plagues in Revelation 15, which are filled up with the wrath of God. If the rapture is in fact in Revelation 14, then it still occurs before the wrath of God is poured out upon the earth, thus we are still not appointed unto wrath.

With this (and many other thoughts in mind) my new timeline is as follows:
  1. The seven year Tribulation (Daniel's 70th Week) begins at the signing of a covenant between the man who will go on to become the Beast (the Antichrist) and Israel. The covenant (probably will be called a treaty) will be a seven year treaty. (Daniel 9:27)
  2. The seven seals and the 144,000 sealed.
  3. The seven trumpets.
  4. The midpoint - the two witnesses emerge and the beast (Antichrist) assumes power after having a fatal wound healed. The talking statue and the mark of the beast begin.
  5. Rapture
  6. Wrath (seven plagues and seven vials).
  7. Fall of Babylon.
  8. Marriage supper of the Lamb
  9. 1,000 year reign.
  10. Destruction of Satan.
  11. Final judgment.
  12. New Heaven and New Earth, New Jerusalem.
One objection some will have to this timeline is the timing of the rapture. Paul wrote that it would be at the last trump. It is possible that the seven trumps extend beyond the midpoint of the Tribulation. Regardless of the accuracy of my timeline, God's timeline is set and secure. This means that regardless of the timing of the rapture, God's saints will endure persecution and times are set to get harder. Be prepared and shore up your faith through the study of God's word (Romans 10:17).

I am not an end times expert, nor a scholar in the book of Revelation. These are conclusions I am basing on a study of Revelation in and of itself, with a background of having previously studied Daniel. Should you have any thoughts to offer, corrections to make, or arguments to advance, feel free to do so, as long as all is done in brotherly love and is supported by scripture in context

2 comments:

Adrian Neal said...

It is not only possible that the 7 trumps extend beyond the mid-point, it is scriptural. The last trump of I Cor. 15 corresponds to Rev.11:15 "And the seventh angel sounded...kingdoms of this world become the kingdoms of our Lord and of his Christ...." Then in Rev.11:18 "And the nations were angry and thy wrath is come...and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants, etc." (sounds like the judgement seat of Christ occurring while his wrath is poured out, not beforehand)

I am led to believe in a pre-wrath rapture simply because there is so much sripture to support it.
In fact, the Old Testament supports it, Is. 26:20,21.
"Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a moment, until the indignation be overpast. For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity..."
These verses are preceded by v. 19 "and the earth shall cast out the dead" so the context is sound.

If a person preaches pre-trib. rapture, they had better be right, or in the end, they will be a liar and the masses will not recognize the anti-christ for who he is...
"That can't be him, because my preacher and Tim Lahaye said that we would be gone before he came on the scene."

JamesCharles said...

I'm not sure about the "wrath" part of it. I know that 2 Thessalonians 2 points to the "coming" in the following order.

Be not afraid as though the coming (rapture) has happened.

It won't happen unless

1. Falling away.
2. That which hinders is taken out of the way.
3. Man of sin be revealed.
4. Antichrist reveals himself as God working wonders.

So the order we have if you add in verse 8 is the following.

1. Falling away
2. That which hinders is removed
3. The man of sin is revealed.
4. The man of sin sits on the throne and declares himself God.
5. The man of sin works miracles.
6. Jesus comes [the coming referring to the rapture according to the first verses] (vs 8) and destroys the antiChrist.



Matthew 24 gives a similar order of events.

It seems you two see the same thing in Revelation.


Concerning the rapture, all passages I've read which give a time-line and order seem to show the same thing. I've not found a single one that shows rapture before the tribulation. Even giving the pre-tribbers the benefit of the doubt, I can't find a single passage that points to a pre-trib rapture. So the pre-tribbers say "every passage in the Bible about the coming is not in chronological order". How can they say this?